In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I examine the tragic murder of 32-year-old Caroline Piña Cairo, a mother of five who was fatally stabbed in broad daylight in Del Rio, Texas. I walk through the timeline of the attack, the emergency medical response, the forensic realities of stabbing investigations, and the evidence investigators use to reconstruct violent crimes. As this case continues to unfold, I focus on the verified facts while honoring Caroline's life and the family she leaves behind. This episode contains discussion of homicide and violent injury. Listener discretion is advised.
In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I'm examining the heartbreaking murder of 32-year-old Caroline Piña Cairo, a mother of five whose life was taken in a brutal daylight attack that stunned the Del Rio, Texas community.
When Caroline arrived at the hospital suffering from multiple stab wounds, medical teams fought to save her life. Despite their efforts, she later succumbed to her injuries. Three women were arrested and charged with her murder, but many questions surrounding the case remain unanswered as the investigation continues.
As a forensic death investigator and former emergency room nurse, I walk through what happens in the critical moments after a stabbing victim arrives at the hospital, why injuries like these can be far more severe than they first appear, and how investigators begin reconstructing a violent crime through witness statements, surveillance footage, forensic evidence, and medical findings. I also discuss why it's so important to separate verified facts from speculation while a case is still unfolding.
But more than anything, I want to remember Caroline.
She wasn't simply the victim in a headline. She was a mother, a friend, and someone remembered for her generosity and the kindness she showed others, even during difficult times in her own life. Behind every investigation is a family whose world has been forever changed, and five children who will grow up without their mother.
This episode contains discussion of homicide, stabbing violence, and death. Listener discretion is advised.
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Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I'm your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner.
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Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. So happy that you could listen. I was reached by a few people this week who are new listeners and many of them are friends that have been mine forever and just never really had a chance to listen.
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I appreciate that so much and I love the input. I do have a couple of engagements coming up speaking on some other podcasts. And once those take place, I will let you know when those are going to air and give you a little more information.
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I'm just going to kind of get going with the story this week. I hope that everyone had a great and safe 4th of July. I know that when I worked at the medical examiner's office, it was always a dangerous weekend.
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And I can remember when I first started, I was working every Sunday and Sundays were the worst. Statistically, we had more deaths on Sundays than any other day of the week. A lot of drownings on holiday weekends.
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Hopefully everyone was safe. I don't think that I've heard of any drownings, but I'm sure there were, just because it's such a dangerous time of year. I don't know about y'all, but last year when I got in the lake, no, it was year before.
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Last year I was on a cruise. Year before last, when I got in the lake, a dead fish and a dirty diaper literally floated up next to me. And I think that's the day I decided I really don't love lake water.
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And I don't like swimming in the ocean either. I don't want stuff swimming past me, and I need to know what's in the water underneath me. Many years ago, I went to Jaws on the water and it was in Austin, Lake Travis, and it was pretty cool.
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I mean, we watched Jaws on the big screen while we were floating in the lake. And they did hire divers that came in and they would brush against everyone's leg. And of course, some of the younger girls didn't know.
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And so there was a lot of screaming and carrying on, but it was a lot of fun because I knew. But I mean, these days, you know, you hear all these stories of alligators in the lakes and a lot of alligator attacks, they're super scary.
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I mean, there was one recently in Florida, and I'm sure they happen every day in Florida and in certain areas of the world where there's a huge alligator and crocodile population, but we're not used to that in Texas.
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So, I know there have been some sightings of some alligators in some nearby lakes, and I personally do not have time to get rolled by one. I don't get into the lakes. But anyway, I want to talk a little bit about a case.
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It's recent, it's raw, it's actually still developing. It's a story that people are calling the Cookie and Kitty Diaz case. But before we say their names again, we need to say the victim. This is Caroline Piña Cairo.
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And she was a 32-year-old mother of five, a woman who, according to the people who loved her, gave even when she had very little left to give. So, this happened June 25th, 2026, in Del Rio. Caroline Piña was attacked in broad daylight, not in the dark, not hidden where no one could see, not anywhere remote.
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This happened near one of the busiest roads in town. So, in the 800 block of East 10th Street, near a sonic, according to local reports, it happened in the middle of the day. People are out, cars are moving around, driving around, life's going on.
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And then suddenly there's this woman bleeding from multiple stab wounds. Now, by a little after 2 p.m., Del Rio police were called to the Valvarde Regional Medical Center, and Carolyn had arrived there with injuries so severe that she needed emergency care beyond what that hospital could provide.
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So, she was transported to San Antonio. And by 9 p.m., investigators were notified that Caroline had died. Three women were arrested, Kitty Mia Diaz, who was 21, Amaya Cookie Diaz, who was 19, and Kyandra Renee Faz, who was 21.
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And all three were charged with murder. Now, tonight we're going to walk through what is known, what's been reported, and what remains unanswered. This case isn't just about violence. It's also about escalation.
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It's about group violence, and it's about a public attack so brazen that it left an entire community stunned. It's also about five children. They lost their mother in one afternoon. So, before we continue, this episode discusses stabbing injuries and death, and I will keep the details factual and grounded as far as what's been reported.
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Now, Del Rio, I don't know how many of you have been to Texas, but it sits in southwest Texas. It's near the Mexican border. It's not a massive city. It's a place where everybody knows everybody, or at least they know someone who knows someone.
06:01
And I know that I grew up in a town like that. In communities like Del Rio, violence really doesn't stay contained to a police report. It spreads. It reaches churches, school pickup lines, family group texts, Facebook pages, break rooms.
06:16
And when a mother of five is killed in broad daylight, that's a shocker. And that hits hard. So, on Thursday, June 25th, the day began like any other summer day in Texas. Payment was hot, lots of traffic, people running errands, work schedules, appointments, just the stress of everyday life that I think we all struggle with every day.
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Shortly after two, officers with the Del Rio Police Department responded to Valverde Regional Medical Center, and the call was not for a minor injury. It was for a female suffering from multiple stab wounds.
06:52
Think about that from an emergency standpoint. When someone comes to the hospital with multiple stab wounds, the first questions are immediate. What are the wounds? How much blood's been lost? How is their airway?
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Are they talking? Are they conscious? Are they pale, sweaty, confused? Is the bleeding under control? Are the wounds to the chest, abdomen, back, neck, or to major vessels? Now, a stab wound is deceptive because the outside injury rarely tells the full story.
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A small opening in the skin can hide a really deep track into muscle, lung, bowel, kidney, or even some major blood vessels. So, a person might be awake and talking while they're bleeding internally. And they might even seem like they're holding it together.
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They're going to make it. They're going to be fine. But when the body starts losing the fight, their blood pressure drops and the heart tries to compensate, and they get cool and they start having breathing problems and their pain is difficult to control.
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And if the wound involves the abdomen or the back, the damage might be catastrophic before anyone really has a chance to see what the full extent of the injuries are. So, Caroline was alive when she reached medical care, but her injuries were severe enough for her to be transferred to San Antonio Medical Facility for emergency treatment.
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And that matters because it tells us that it wasn't just superficial. It was life-threatening trauma. And by nightfall, Caroline was gone. Now, according to police, the assault happened again in the 800 block of East 10th Street in Del Rio.
08:41
Local coverage described the area as near a sonic and along one of the busier roads in town. Now that visual matters because this is broad daylight. This is not the kind of violence hidden behind closed doors.
08:57
This was public, visible, and very brutal. Now, reports say that Caroline suffered multiple stab wounds. Fox News citing local reports stated that she was stabbed twice in the back and once in the stomach.
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Let's sit with kind of what those injuries mean. A stab wound to the stomach or abdomen raises immediate concern for injury to organs and blood vessels. Now, the abdomen holds the liver and the spleen and the stomach, intestines, kidneys, pancreas, and a lot of major vessels.
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So, a blade entering that space does not need to be large to kill somebody. Now, a wound to the back raises another set of concerns altogether. Depending on the location and the depth, a backstab wound might enter the chest cavity.
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It could damage a lung. It could injure a kidney. It could cut the vessels, or it could track into the spine or the abdominal space. So, stab wounds aren't clean little marks like people see on television.
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They bleed and they swell and clothing sticks to the skin and blood spreads through the fabric. And so, a person might press their own hand against the wound and still feel warmth between their fingers from the blood.
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So, if you try to stand, if you try to walk, they might try to keep fighting because that adrenaline's taking over and they don't realize yet that they can't. Now, this is part of what makes this case so heartbreaking.
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A friend of Caroline's said that Caroline was still standing her ground. And so that line kind of stays with me because as a nurse, I hear something else inside. I hear survival. I hear a woman whose body had already been injured, yet she was still present enough and strong enough and determined enough to try to stay upright.
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Now, that doesn't mean she was fine, though. Like I said before that kind of just means her body was fighting until it no longer had enough blood or oxygen. Now, in a case like this, it's easy for suspects' names to take over.
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Cookie, Kitty and Kyandra. The mugshots, the arrest video, the outrage, the comments, the speculation. But the center of this case is Caroline Piña Cairo, 32 years old, a mother of five. Her oldest child was reported to be 17.
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And so that means Caroline became a mother at a young age. And people who knew her described her as a very generous person. One friend told Channel 5 that they met when they were both teen mothers in a program for young parents called Cradles in the Classroom.
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That's kind of a cute name. I'd never heard of that. But that same friend said that Caroline helped her with baby clothes and household items when she was just starting out. That tells us a little bit about her as a person.
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She knew what it was like to grow up fast. She knew what it meant to raise children while still trying to build a life for herself. And she knew stress. She was a survivor and she apparently was the kind of woman who gave a lot to other people.
12:24
A mother of five doesn't live a quiet life. There's a lot going on at home. There are meals, laundry, schedules, school, sickness, birthdays, teenage attitudes, as we all know. A mother's life leaves fingerprints everywhere.
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When the mother dies violently, her absence doesn't sit in one room. It spreads through the entire family. There are children who will remember what happened. There are children who might be too young to fully understand it today, but they'll understand it later.
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And so, she's going to miss birthdays. She's going to miss graduations, ordinary evenings where someone reaches for her and she's gone. That's the damage people don't see in a mugshot. Homicide does not end at death.
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It definitely keeps taking. Police identified these three suspects again, and we said their names. I don't even want to say them again. But according to police, investigators gathered surveillance video, processed evidence, and conducted many numerous witness interviews.
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At around 4 o'clock, officers located and arrested Kitty and Amaya Diaz without incident. And then a short time later, they located Kyandra Fas. And all three were taken to Del Rio PD for booking and processing.
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Of course, after Caroline died, they were all three charged with murder. They were transported to a correctional facility and remain there at this time. Now, charged with the murder at this stage means that law enforcement believes there is probable cause.
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It doesn't mean they've been convicted, but it does not mean that every detail has been proven in court. It just means basically that the criminal process has started. The motive, however, has not been released.
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That's important because right now people online are, as they always do, and we hate this, they're filling in the blanks. They're guessing. They're repeating rumors. They are deciding who started what, but the official answer is still this.
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The motive has not been publicly disclosed. When a motive is missing, the responsible thing is to avoid pretending that we know, and that's something that I don't do on pushing up Lily's. But what we do know is this.
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She was stabbed. She died. Three women were arrested. All three face murder charges. And the investigation is active. And additional charges are possible. One reason this case spreads so quick online is the arrest video.
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And it will anger you if you have not seen it. Footage showed the Diaz sister smiling or acting flippantly when the police took them into custody. The New York Post actually reported that video showed Kitty Diaz grinning as officers led her to a patrol car and Cookie Diaz smiling and giggling and sticking out her tongue towards the cameras.
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Those images really are enraging. And if you haven't seen them, you should go online and look. But understandably, because when the public sees somebody accused of a brutal killing like this and they're smiling when they're arrested, it's obscene.
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It's like mocking the deceased person. And it's obvious that there's no remorse. But here's what we have to separate appearance from evidence. Body language is not a motive. A smirk is not a confession.
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A grin doesn't replace a trial, but it does shape the way we look at it because the public perception matters in cases like this. People see that kind of footage and really quick, we're going to think these are cold women.
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They decide they're proud and they decide they don't care. And maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. But a courtroom needs evidence. So, the rage on the internet isn't going to help anything. But still, from a human standpoint, it's hard to watch anybody act lighthearted like that while another family is being told that their loved one is deceased.
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So, approximately 4 p.m., the arrests were happening. At 9, it was learned that Caroline had been pronounced. And that means while the suspects are still being processed, Caroline's family and friends were still inside the nightmare, waiting, praying, trying to get updates, trying to understand how this day turned out like this.
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Stabbing cases hit a little bit differently from an investigator's standpoint. They are close contact homicides. The attacker has to be near the victim. There's not a lot of distance like with a gun.
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There is body proximity. There is force. There is movement. There is resistance. And there is blood transfer. There are many times too defensive injuries. Hands get cut when victims try to grab the blade or shield themselves.
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And forearms get injured when somebody raises their arms or wrists to try to fight somebody off. And that tells the story of their struggle for survival. To be clear, police have not released a full autopsy report.
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So, I'm not saying what injuries she had beyond what were reported, but in stabbing investigations, the investigators look carefully for the pattern, like where the wounds are, how many there are, direction, were they clustered?
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Were there any superficial hesitation marks? Were they all deep and forceful? Did surveillance video show the confrontation? Did witnesses hear any words exchanged? I don't know if the weapon was recovered or not.
18:24
I don't know if there was more than one weapon. We don't know who held it, who encouraged the assault, who helped afterwards, like any of those details. But group violence gets complicated fast because in this three-person case, who stabbed, who participated, who helped, who encouraged, who left?
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Did anyone destroy evidence? Did anyone lie? Who planned this out? Who had the weapon? Who knew the weapon was even there? These details kind of decide how the prosecutors are going to build this case, and they also decide whether more charges are filed in a case like this.
19:06
The public nature of the attack is definitely disturbing. A lot of people think that deadly violence like this happens at night when nobody's around and no one can watch in very isolated spaces. But this happened in a public area in the middle of the day.
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That changes the psychology of the crime in many ways because broad daylight violence really suggests either a complete loss of impulse, a belief no one's going to intervene, a desire to maybe humiliate the person publicly, or the fact that it just escalated so fast that the suspects didn't really care who was around, which is very likely.
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It also increases the likelihood of witnesses. There's surveillance cameras. It's daylight, cell phone videos, traffic cameras, business cameras. We've talked many times about the importance of cameras.
20:02
There's people at nearby businesses, people sitting in their cars. They heard screaming, they saw blood, they saw clothing, and they saw the suspects leave. And so according to police, the surveillance footage and witness interviews helped investigators identify the suspects very quickly.
20:22
The timeline shows speed. At 2.10, police responded to the hospital. Investigators determined the assault location. They reviewed the video. They interviewed witnesses. They processed evidence. By around four, Cookie and Kitty Diaz were arrested.
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Now, Kyandra's arrest followed shortly after that. And that's pretty fast. That tells us pretty quickly that investigators had enough information to move quickly. It is very likely that there was visible evidence and the witnesses obviously cooperated.
20:58
Caroline's friends actually spoke and said that one said that she'd missed a call from Caroline shortly before the stabbing, so at around 1.35, and later recognized Caroline in a photo because of her hair and clothing.
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And this is the kind of detail that people actually carry forever, if you can imagine, you know, missing a call, your phone lining up, the name's on the screen, but you're busy. You can't answer it. You're distracted or you're working or you're driving and you think, you know, I'm going to call her back.
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And then this tragedy happens. And suddenly that person feels responsible, even though they have nothing to do with it. But people replay it. You know, we've talked about this a lot. People feel guilty.
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You know, what if I had answered? What if I had driven there to help her? Would it have changed the timing? This grief tortures people with this math that's just not possible. The responsibility for a killing belongs to the people who caused the injuries, not the friend who missed the call or the family member who wasn't there or the child who didn't know or the community who never realized this could possibly happen.
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And so, the people who loved Caroline are left with the aftermath. They have to face the court system, and these five children are left with a story that no child should have to carry with them. A lot of cases make headlines because of the mystery, but some because of wealth, some because they're famous.
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But this case was public because of the brazenness. These three young women accused publicly stabbing a mother of five. And then video of the suspects appearing carefree, like no motive released and the victim possibly still fighting after the attack.
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But there's something really disturbing about a group assault. One person with a weapon is dangerous, but three people, that's a little bit different. That's social pressure and adrenaline. And people, as we know, they escalate each other.
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One person shouts, another person moves closer. Somebody swings. Somebody pulls a weapon. In group violence, the moment when one person might have stopped disappears. The group is an engine. And when a blade enters the scene, the outcome can quickly change.
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A fist fight becomes a homicide. A public argument becomes a murder charge. There are a lot of things we don't know. Again, this case is pretty new. We don't know the motive. We don't know whether Caroline knew these girls.
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We don't know what happened immediately before the stabbing. We don't know whether there was an argument, if this was just a planned confrontation, or if they just kind of accidentally ran into each other.
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We don't know whether one weapon or multiple weapons were involved. We do not know who police believe actually inflicted the wounds or whether prosecutors will pursue any additional charges. We don't know what the autopsy shows.
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We don't know whether there are text messages or any kind of social media posts or threats that may explain why this happened. And all that matters because it's going to matter in court. Right now, the responsible version of this story is not to invent missing pieces.
24:34
It's to honor what we know and identify what is unanswered. When a mom is killed, the medical examiner's report lists one death. But as we all know emotionally, the blast radius is much larger. She had five children, and they have to learn to live with a violent loss.
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Whether we believe it or not, violent grief is different. It's not just sadness and fear and anger and confusion, but it's public attention and court dates and online comments and rumors and screenshots.
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And we all know that this has gotten worse with social media. That's something that true crime podcasters really have to handle with care. We tell stories because they matter and we tell them because the victims deserve names.
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And violence needs examination, but we never forget real people who are still bleeding emotionally after these headlines move on. These three accused women were charged with murder, and in Texas, murder is a first-degree felony.
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So, when a person intentionally or knowingly causes the death of another person or intends to cause serious bodily injury and commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes death. And so, this is going to carry serious punishment.
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But the legal road, even though we would love for it to be in cases like this, is not instant. There's going to be bond decisions, possible grand jury reviews, indictments, discovery, defense motions.
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We have to wait for the autopsy reports and the forensic testing and all of the witness interviews before the trial. So, if there's surveillance video, believe me you, prosecutors are going to study that frame by frame.
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And if there's blood evidence, it's going to be tested and documented. Clothing is going to be examined. If a weapon was recovered, that's going to be examined as well. Messages, you know, location pings on cell phones.
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If there was any, I would be curious to see if any witnesses actually recorded video. Those videos might show timing and exactly what happened. Of course, that's going to help because in cases like this where there's three girls, one person might blame another.
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One might claim they were there, but they weren't really involved. And one might say, well, she came at us first, you know, try to claim self-defense. But group cases often fracture under pressure. So, people who stand together when it's chaotic don't always stand together later, as we know, because people testify against each other for lighter sentences and whatnot.
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But the scene itself, again, a public area, reported attack near a busy road, and people are going to see that. Someone might try to help and unintentionally disturb evidence. And emergency responders focus on saving a life as they should because medical care comes first.
27:45
Evidence comes second. Sometimes investigators have to kind of reconstruct what happened. Blood on the pavement, clothing, the surveillance angles, the witness timelines, you know, when did the 911 call come in.
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But a body tells the truth in ways that people don't. And wounds are going to tell direction and force and position and sequence. And they're going to know whether the victim had time to react or not.
28:15
These wounds are going to show whether injuries were survivable with immediate care or if they were just catastrophic from the beginning. Carolyn's body is now evidence. This is one of the hardest parts of forensic work because a person becomes a case, a mother becomes a file, and her life becomes photographs and measurements and chain of custody.
28:39
But behind every evidence bag is a person who was loved. People are angry about this case. There's a lot of reasons to be mad. They're angry because Caroline died and they're angry because she was a mom and her children lost their mother.
28:54
They're angry because these girls were smiling when they're arrested. And the whole thing just feels senseless. And that's hard to process. There's not a clear reason why this happened. Maybe jealousy, maybe a fight, maybe there's some sort of weird social media drama, maybe a conflict that happened previously that no one knows about.
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But right now, those are all guesses and guesses don't belong in a factual episode. But what belongs here is this. She passed away. Three women are accused and this family is shattered. She survived long enough to reach medical care and long enough to be transferred.
29:35
And that means that there was a window of hope, that short period of time, that's excruciating for families. And I've seen it working in the emergency room multiple times. Somebody's flown or transferred for trauma care and families cling to everything.
29:54
They're unstable. They're going in for surgery. They're still alive. They're fighting. And those words become oxygen for the family. Those words keep the family going, not purposefully and not in a way to be dishonest.
30:10
But nine o'clock, that's when investigators were notified that she had succumbed to her injuries. That's a clinical word. It's very soft, but death from stabbing is not soft. It's blood loss, organ damage, shock, pain, fear.
30:28
And then the medical team think of them working under pressure, IV lines, blood products, people trying to pull a person back from the edge. And despite everything, the body can't recover. And that was always the hardest part for me working in the emergency room.
30:46
If we had a death in the ER, you know, you try so hard to save people and then you go home after you didn't and you just feel this sense of guilt, even though you know as a team, you worked together and you did everything you were taught to do.
31:01
No one did anything wrong, but you still come home with this sense of defeat. And I definitely don't want this episode remembered only by the names of these kids. Their names are attached to this case just because they're accused.
31:16
Caroline's name belongs at the center because she's the one that's deceased. Her children deserved more time with her. And true crime has a responsibility. We examine the accused and we study the timeline and we discuss the evidence and we follow the court process.
31:36
But we do not ever want the victim to disappear under that noise. As this case moves forward, there's going to be a lot of things to watch for. The official documents charging these girls that might reveal whether they believe one person stabbed Caroline or whether they were all three active.
31:55
The autopsy is going to clarify the number of wounds and the location and depth. And then we need to know, was there a weapon recovered? Right now, again, motive has not been released. The court's decision on bond will tell us how the judge views the risk, severity, and flight concerns, which I can tell you right now, these girls better not be out on bond.
32:20
I believe they do still remain in custody. So, all we have now really is a skeleton of a case. The court process is going to add the bones and give us more of a full picture. But again, public stabbing is very intimate, close enough for the blade to enter the person, public enough for strangers to actually see what happened afterwards.
32:46
And she did not die in silence. She was violently assaulted. Now, these girls, and again, I just hate to say their names, but their futures now move through the criminal justice system. That's the part I can't stop thinking about is not the smiles in the arrest video or the online outrage or the nicknames, but Carolyn trying to fight, trying to survive.
33:11
You always think that like, you know, the first thing going through your head would be, but also the last thing is your children. Now, these three girls are in custody. Investigators actually are alleging now that surveillance video shows Cookie Diaz actually arriving at the scene, already holding what appeared to be a knife.
33:32
Prosecution alleges that she stabbed Pena, after which Kitty and Faz join the assault. Now, police also allege that after the attack, they attempted to destroy evidence by changing clothes and showering.
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And bloodstained clothing was recovered during execution of a search warrant. And apparently there's some newly released doorbell camera footage that shows Pena smiling and talking on the phone only minutes before the attack.
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And so that highlights how quickly the confrontation escalated. We don't know yet, but authorities are stating that Pena knew these three women. They believe the attack was not random, but they have not publicly identified the motive.
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Now, right now, each of these girls are being held on a $5 million bond, and they have requested court-appointed attorneys. Again, the mystery in this case surrounding the motive continues, and I'm going to keep an eye on it to see maybe what the background was in this story, what happened and why it happened.
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But it's frightening that in the middle of the day, something like this could happen. And I hate to think of the witnesses because that's horrifying. I think I told y'all once that we witnessed a lady get hit by a bus and it was not on purpose, but it was horrifying.
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And my poor kids were, they were older, but they were still devastated. My oldest daughter was like, mom, I need to go to the hotel and lay down. I mean, that's not something that you can unsee. That's definitely not something that most people have to deal with on a daily basis.
35:28
It's terrible that these kids, I don't know anything about the father. I don't know if she was married. There's still, like I said, a lot of information that has not come out. I'm just curious of the motive.
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I'm glad that these three girls are being held. I would not suspect that they would be able to post bond with it being $5 million each, but I will definitely keep you informed as I learn new evidence about the case.
35:56
I, again, am just loving the emails and messages that I get on a daily basis. I'm really thankful for the people that I met at CrimeCon who remembered me and wrote down my information and have contacted me since I've been home to have me on their podcasts.
36:20
And I will do the same and have them on mine. And again, I know I've said multiple times, I will get on camera. I just am trying to get my room set up here. Also working on a YouTube channel for my med spa called The Filling Station Beyond the Needle, which we have a YouTube page.
36:39
I would love for you to go on there and follow us. However, there is no audio or video yet, but I am trying to go ahead and get some followers. We're working on our audio. We're having problems with our microphone, but that will soon be resolved.
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Anyway, I hope y'all have an amazing rest of your week. Stay safe, and I'll talk to y'all next week. Bye y'all. Thank you so much for joining me today on Pushing Up Lilies. If you like this podcast and would like to share with others, please do me a quick favor and leave a review on Apple Podcast.
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